Question – St Paul was clear: hold the traditions, by word or by letter. How far back do you go in terms of tradition?

Question – St Paul was clear: hold the traditions, by word or by letter. How far back do you go in terms of tradition?

This question relates to traditions and refers to 2 Thessalonians 2:15, Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle. We would like to point out that verses taken out of context will always get us into trouble. The word tradition as used by Paul refers to what the Church had at that time, the inspired word of God through the prophets, and the written word from the apostles. The chapter from which that verse was taken warns the Thessalonians about something: Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

And in that context, the apostle Paul encourages them to stand firm in the faith and not be swayed: But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle. Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work.

And from the same chapter, why should they be careful and stand firm? The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Consequently, this theme is reinforced several times in God’s Word – that the responsibility for our soul rests with each person individually. We must take care not to be led astray but to use God’s word as a reference point for everything around us.

I John 4:1 – Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Paul chastises the Galatians for not being careful (Galatians 3:1-9), O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Have you suffered so many things in vain?” if indeed it was in vain?

Acts 17:10-11 – Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

The above verse in Acts of the Apostles is particularly interesting in that the Bereans listened to Paul, but still subjected his words to the scrutiny of God’s word. We also reserve that right. We do not follow blindly because some one said so or because of traditions handed down through the ages by Church authorities after the closure of the writing of the New Testament. I understand you will disagree with us on this point.

The issue of tradition is an interesting one and cuts both ways. Jesus said (Matt 15:1-3): Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread. He answered and said to them, Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. We accept there is a place for heritage and culture, but it is not on the same level as God’s Word. Unfortunately for some people tradition takes precedence over God’s Word. Again, I understand that you will probably disagree with us on that point too.

We cannot use the word tradition in reference to both scripture and the writings of the Church Fathers to justify extra-biblical doctrines. Jude verse 3 clearly states Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. The basis to our faith has been once for all delivered and closed with the writings of the apostles. We understand that you will probably not agree with this view either.

The issue of who we are and how we relate to the Orthodox Church has been dealt with in our questions and answers section and we encourage you to read through it for more information on this topic. Our history and when our congregation first started is information that is publicly available on our web site.

One Comment

  1. Jordan

    What about obeying God and not the commandments & tradition of the man of sin who is the beast mother of harlots who sits on his throne forgiving sins in the Vatican city temple posing to be Christ hidden in the veil of flesh that thinks to change times & laws replaced the second commandment by dividong the 10th, in particular the 4th commandment of God made it the 3rd and transfered the solemnity from the 7th day to the first day of the week the babylonian day of the sun Sunday a spurious sabbath day that no protestant has the right to keep holy and has no scriptural authority, a Ecclesiastical mark of the beast of the Roman catholic church instituted in the council of Laodecea. What right has any church got to keep this spurious day & commit fornication drinking the wine (doctrine) of her wrath joining ALL NATIONS includes your chuch in wandering after the beast.
    Heaven & earth shall pass not one jot or one tiddle shall in no wise pass from my law. Blessed are they that keep my commandments for they shall have a right to enter the gates into the city. He who says loves me and keeps not my commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him. Let us hear the conclusion of the matter,Fear God & keep His commandments for this is the whole duty of man. To the LAW AND TO THE TESTIMONY if they speak not according to this word there is no light in them. THAT MEANS THEY ARE IN DARKNESS.
    The dragon was wroth with the woman & went to make war with the remnant of her seed those who KEEP the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST..
    THEY ARE THE SAINTS.
    Here is the patience of the SAINTS here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the faith of Jesus.
    Brother has the enemy of souls obliterated the existence of God’s memorial day from the mind’s of men which is to be kept in the new Jerusalem when all flesh bows before His Majesty From Sabbath to Sabbath & new moon to new moon forever & ever? The 7th day given to man in EDEN confirmed written in stone to be kept in your forehand & in between your frontlets or forehead forever throughout your generations was kept by Jesus and ALL His deciples after His resurection and the whole world for over 300 years until it was combined with, when in Rome do what Rome does the pagan day of the sun as we entered into the Roman horrors of the dark ages where Gods people hid in the wilderness for 1260 days (years) 538 until 1798 french Napoleon Bonaparte Revolution. The disciple’s broke bread on any day of the week this is a term used
    back then that states they ate together & not to be interpreted as if they had communion together which they did on the night before our Saviours crucifixion to be used as an excuse to justify your ignorance to God’s eternal Holy law & surrender allegiance to the commandments of men . And as you know Jesus did say WHENEVER you do this ordinance think of me and did not give instruction to do it every Sunday. I am the Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus i Lord of the 7th day IS THE LORD’S DAY and Sunday the day of our Lord’s ressurection is not to be interpreted as THE LORD’S DAY. The resurrection of our saviour was before midnight on Saturday night according to the Roman clock which ends the day at midnight. Jesus resurected at sunset on the third day as the sabbath was ended and then it was EVENING (before midnight) the next day as in Genesis. There is not on single verse in the bible, A CLEAR STRAIGHT TESTIMONY so a 4 year old can understand to authorise the mark of the beast Sunday law which will very shortly disguised in the events that taking place about us will come as a suprise THE UN SUNDAY ALLIANCE, A GREEN SABBATH day of rest to reduce carbon by 30% & save our planet instead of saving soul’s which all the world leaders signed up for in the UN Paris Climate change summit COP 21 have implemented 17 Goal and 169 targets out of the Laudato Si Pope Francis Encyclical of which the observance of his MARK Sunday is number 237. Google Pope Francis dressed in purple & scarlet holding a golden cup in his hand & see if God is precise, oh yes He is precuse, that goldem cup is full of abominations allright. Woe unto the inhabitants of the earth, Satan the Roaring Lion who deceived the Angelic host who deceived Eve in her perfect state, who deceived all the antideluvian old world except Noah & his family is and has deceived a 6000 year old degraded sin sick world. God allways warns His people & His 2 sets of people one group in REV 12: 17 and the other group in Pagan Babylon COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE so that you are not partakers of her sins. Sin is transgression of the law, if there is no law there is no transgression. Give the trumpet a certain sound, Lift up thy voice like a trumpet, sound the trumpet in Zion tell my people their transgression. Trumpet was sounded to call Gods erring people back to obedience. The soul that sinneth it shall SURELY DIE . Awake out of your slumber you have all taken the vaccine ( a personal choice) & is not the mark of the beast, many of you in fear of losing freedoms, the great test comes after the one you have just failed to pass with the enemy implementing & enforcing draconian laws preparing and gathering his harvest and no man will buy or sell except those who receive the mark of the beast or his image or the number of his name. Last days prophecies demand our attention. It is time to put away erroneous doctrine that comes from beneath . If you show me your secret rapture i will show you how every eye shall see him and that ALL THE DEAD IN CHRIST are not floating around in heaven and come out of their graves where they have been all this time, at the last trump where Gods people are still alive on this earth together are caught up in their air with the entire heavenly host as the wicked are destroyed by the light of the world our saviours shinning brightness obliterates all darkness in men.
    Work out YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING, no man will enter the courts of heaven with sin, one cherished sin can cost you your salvation forever. Vindicate Gods name with victory over sin, let no man take your crown, well done good and faithful servant. Fight Gods battles when champions are few.
    The reader of thiss comment is responsible to invesrigate thoroughly the claims & warnings here in, & as a watchman
    responsible for the blood of precious souls, the wise shall understand.
    The calamities by land and sea, the alarms of war are portentuous they forecast events of the greatest magnitude
    The agencies of evil are combining their forces they are consolidating they are strengthening for the last great crisis, great changes are soon to take place in our world and the final movements will be RAPID ONES
    Get ready. get ready, get ready.
    No pen can write and no words can describe THE MAGNITUDE of the events that will take pkace
    Get out of the cities, out of the cities, while you still have time, help each other brethren, you may get a little break from lockdowns dont waste it, Satan wants you trapped there in the cities like sardines in a can. Thousands of cities will be destroyed just like Sodom, Gods judgements will fall upon the wicked cities.
    Get into the ark while you can in the mountains grow your own means Ezekiel 7:15&16 famine & pestilence in cities the sword just outside the cities feillds robbed by violent hands. In the cities depending on coles & woolworths for food where buying and selling will be the issue a decree that will compell you to worship or obey the beast when soon the decree will go forth Sunday becomes a universal law that legislators are keeping secret as protestant America the 2 horned lamblike dragon speaking beast had reached over the abyss grasping the hand of spiritualism in union with the sea beast Rome concerting a three fold union trampling on God’s Holy law and mans concience, the protestants of the United States about to form an in image of the beast a national Sunday law, whoever does not worship (obey ) the image of the beast should be killed. In fear of not having food or clothing many will receive the mark of the beast. Ask God to carry us in His everlasting arms through the time of trouble. We can investigate these things together SOLA SCRIPTURA.

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